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Post by sumo on Aug 26, 2008 13:46:11 GMT
Did anyone go to the powerstation nighter? We did'nt go , family do! we heard the numbers were down but the music was spot on After the build up it had on here and SS , I thought there would have been some feedback . Lovely venue and its documented on the last one I said I wasnt too sure about the music IMO, so I was pleased to hear good comments about the chooons being played. Sadly can't make the next one either,made plans earlier in the year to have a bit of a birthday bash with the Bridgwater crew
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Post by stax'a'soul on Aug 26, 2008 18:54:44 GMT
Yeah me and kerry went mart,had a good nite...can only comment on the main room where the music was superb from start to finish,shame about the numbers cos it really is a great venue/nite...everyone i spoke to said more or less the same. We wont be at the next one either because we shall be Bridgwatering it,hope to make the one after though. steve
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Post by Mike E on Aug 27, 2008 9:44:29 GMT
Yes, agree music was on the whole much better. Some big Tunes played: Del Larks 'Job Opening', Hamilton Movement to name a few. Great venue and deserves better attendance. Shame about the clash with Bridgewater for next one.Will be just back from Tenerife the day before but planning to go to Bridgewater and maybe call in at Berkeley on way back. Mike www.riversidesoul.co.uk
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Post by sumo on Aug 29, 2008 7:43:27 GMT
Why the promoter of this event has chosen not to post on HIS night but sees fit to advertise in the "for sale" section!Smacks of being a bit ignorant - come what may this forum is Good enough for advertising and promoting then surely its good enough for FEEDBACK! SS was good enough to warrant a post but not here!! Come on Dave people on here have supported the first 2 events you put on and some supported this one! Maybe the ones that voted with their feet and didnt go this time are awaiting news of your "tweeking"! We didnt go but like I said previously the reports we've had have been positive. Personally and IMHO , you have a great venue and don't really think its needs to be a nighter, the first one proved that! - there you go I've said what alot of people have been saying to me! and I dear say some have said to you too. I don't wish to critise , I'm just saying what a lot of folks have expressed. At the end of the day its your venue,your choice. ATB Mart Good luck with future Do's
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Post by sumo on Aug 29, 2008 9:23:50 GMT
Yes, agree music was on the whole much better. Some big Tunes played: Del Larks 'Job Opening', Hamilton Movement to name a few. Great venue and deserves better attendance. Shame about the clash with Bridgewater for next one.Will be just back from Tenerife the day before but planning to go to Bridgewater and maybe call in at Berkeley on way back. Mike www.riversidesoul.co.ukJob Opening - Love this tune and to have 2 copies of this at the same venue is magic!
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Post by Mike E on Aug 29, 2008 9:42:34 GMT
Job Opening - Love this tune and to have 2 copies of this at the same venue is magic![/quote] And no doubt they are originals too. :DThe one is for sure
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Post by showstopper on Aug 29, 2008 14:34:04 GMT
Job Opening - Del Larks - Queen City 2004DJ - Lovely
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Post by davethorley on Sept 1, 2008 9:01:23 GMT
Hi All
Sorry took so long to get on here. As many will know we have put our heart and soul into this, but just don't think the south west really wants this kinda event. So having to give it a big think. We will be doing one more if the club let us, but based on numbers it maybe a hard sell to them. But if we do, we will go out big style.
Thanks for everyone's support, who knows maybe another time and place.
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Post by showstopper on Sept 1, 2008 9:05:42 GMT
Does that mean that the next one is on or not Dave in September.
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Post by davethorley on Sept 1, 2008 9:16:29 GMT
Having spoken to the club only this morning, they whish to give it a chance to suceed, but are not happy with revenue. At the end of the day, even though we might do it for the love of it, they have to look at it as a business. So they would like to put something else on for the september date. SO NO SEPTEMBER ALLNIGHTER.
But we have got the november date 1st Novmber, usual dj's plus guest Butch. Plus at the mo all next years dates stand
Not one to give up, so lets see what happens
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Post by showstopper on Sept 1, 2008 9:35:14 GMT
What are your 2009 dates - not seen anything posted.
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Post by davethorley on Sept 1, 2008 10:00:15 GMT
2009 dates Jan 3rd (Yate Allnighter) then regular Allnighters Feb 14th, 11th April, 6th June, 8th Aug, 10th Oct, 19th Dec
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Post by davethorley on Sept 1, 2008 10:32:09 GMT
Why the promoter of this event has chosen not to post on HIS night but sees fit to advertise in the "for sale" section!Smacks of being a bit ignorant - come what may this forum is Good enough for advertising and promoting then surely its good enough for FEEDBACK! SS was good enough to warrant a post but not here!! Come on Dave people on here have supported the first 2 events you put on and some supported this one! Maybe the ones that voted with their feet and didnt go this time are awaiting news of your "tweeking"! We didnt go but like I said previously the reports we've had have been positive. Personally and IMHO , you have a great venue and don't really think its needs to be a nighter, the first one proved that! - there you go I've said what alot of people have been saying to me! and I dear say some have said to you too. I don't wish to critise , I'm just saying what a lot of folks have expressed. At the end of the day its your venue,your choice. ATB Mart Good luck with future Do's But the first one we lost money on. It's not an cheap venue to hire. So to make the sums work out we need to charge £10 a head and people will not pay that for a soul night. So to give people value for money and so we aren't digging in our pockets every time we ran it as an allnighter. You may think this odd but it is the only way to run it vialably. Now you might say, cut costs, less dj's, less rooms etc. But as I have said before, I have always promoted, not for the bottom line, but to offer the very best possible, value for money. I'm sorry but I have always believed it is not good enough to just stick a table at one end of a room to take money and a cheap set of equipment at the other end of the room. Then book a bunch of dj's based on keeping the price down, it's not fair to the people that pay through the door. I also have always tried to run events where you get to hear tunes you can't at every event. Other people run events where you can hear your favourite oldies and run these events better than I could. There are already two very, very good soul nights in the shape of Riverside and Soulfusion and we have tried hard not to step on their toes, spoke to both the promoters and have tried to add to the local scene, not jump on the bandwagon in a way that would be detramental to them. People go to these events as much as a social event as anything and that's great, there should be lots of events like that. But the tunes we all love came from someone somewhere first playing as a new tune back in the mists of time, I like to run events that have an element of this, not allnight, but a element of this. All of this cost money and can't be done on the cheap. But bottom line, is that although we have only spoken a few times, you clearly don't like me and seem to enjoy laughing at our failings. Which is fine, I know I'm not everyones cup of tea, so to speak. But I have been a passionate supporter of soul music in the South West and the UK for over 30 years and have put alot of my own money, time and effort so that other people can enjoy it, not to be liked, because I love the music.
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Post by sumo on Sept 1, 2008 12:19:23 GMT
Why the promoter of this event has chosen not to post on HIS night but sees fit to advertise in the "for sale" section!Smacks of being a bit ignorant - come what may this forum is Good enough for advertising and promoting then surely its good enough for FEEDBACK! SS was good enough to warrant a post but not here!! Come on Dave people on here have supported the first 2 events you put on and some supported this one! Maybe the ones that voted with their feet and didnt go this time are awaiting news of your "tweeking"! We didnt go but like I said previously the reports we've had have been positive. Personally and IMHO , you have a great venue and don't really think its needs to be a nighter, the first one proved that! - there you go I've said what alot of people have been saying to me! and I dear say some have said to you too. I don't wish to critise , I'm just saying what a lot of folks have expressed. At the end of the day its your venue,your choice. ATB Mart Good luck with future Do's But the first one we lost money on. It's not an cheap venue to hire. So to make the sums work out we need to charge £10 a head and people will not pay that for a soul night. So to give people value for money and so we aren't digging in our pockets every time we ran it as an allnighter. You may think this odd but it is the only way to run it vialably. Now you might say, cut costs, less dj's, less rooms etc. But as I have said before, I have always promoted, not for the bottom line, but to offer the very best possible, value for money. I'm sorry but I have always believed it is not good enough to just stick a table at one end of a room to take money and a cheap set of equipment at the other end of the room. Then book a bunch of dj's based on keeping the price down, it's not fair to the people that pay through the door. I also have always tried to run events where you get to hear tunes you can't at every event. Other people run events where you can hear your favourite oldies and run these events better than I could. There are already two very, very good soul nights in the shape of Riverside and Soulfusion and we have tried hard not to step on their toes, spoke to both the promoters and have tried to add to the local scene, not jump on the bandwagon in a way that would be detramental to them. People go to these events as much as a social event as anything and that's great, there should be lots of events like that. But the tunes we all love came from someone somewhere first playing as a new tune back in the mists of time, I like to run events that have an element of this, not allnight, but a element of this. All of this cost money and can't be done on the cheap. But bottom line, is that although we have only spoken a few times, you clearly don't like me and seem to enjoy laughing at our failings. Which is fine, I know I'm not everyones cup of tea, so to speak. But I have been a passionate supporter of soul music in the South West and the UK for over 30 years and have put alot of my own money, time and effort so that other people can enjoy it, not to be liked, because I love the music. I had considered to answer you in a PM but as you publicly state "you clearly dont like me and seem to enjoy laughing at our failings" then I thought i'd respond publicly too. Firstly I would like clarification as to where its stated that I dont like you? Secondly where am I laughing at your failings? and whilst we're on the subject of failings in your eyes you've not failed because again in your words "I also have always tried to run events where you get to hear tunes you cant at every event" , which is what you've done , so thats not failing OR maybe you feel that the failing was monetary due to lack of numbers? If thats the case then again you havent failed because again in your words "I have always promoted,NOT FOR THE BOTTOM LINE ,but to offer the very best possible, value for money. Back to your opening line ."Its not a cheap venue to hire" , thats not the paying publics fault surely , that has to be down to researching the area and market , as you so rightly put it youve been a passionate supporter of soul music for 30 years ,but there's no gaurantee to whos going to walk through the doors! As for sticking a table at the end of a room and a cheap set of equipment, how true you are but wheter you have 10 people or a 100 people good equipment or bad equipment is not a failing! As you are probably aware I am very familiar with both Riversidesoul and Soulfusion and help as best I can and also my wife is resident DJ @ Riverside and a regular DJ in the Hitsville room at Soulfusion and like you said they're great venues but these guys that run it have worked their guts out to make it what it is and believe me they have LISTENED to folks that attend their venues and adjusted where necessary. I put in my post about feeling the need not to have a nighter , I was being honest because I have had a lot of folks say the same to me and thats what I passed on.Also in a previous post I said I wasnt to sure about the music policy - I'm being honest. Personally I dont give a monkeys wether you listen or not,it's your choice Perhaps you're getting me mixed up with others in the Gloucester scene that feel hell bent on "Jumping on the Bandwagon" and saturating the area with mediocre CD playing CLAP TRAP EVENTS! Again thats their choice. I think you'll find at the end of my last post I said "I dont wish to criticise , I'm just saying what a lot of folks have expressed" I hope you havent interperated that as other people dislikin you too! We travel to a few soul do's around and about as quite a few promoters know and wherever possible we take and distribute flyer,posters ,word of mouth etc etc - If you want me to PM you with our address so you can send some we would gladly do the same for you. I appreciate you run top dog records and advertise on here and that was the point that got my hackles up and I stick by what I said , It smacks of ignorance to advertise a few days after the nighter and not post a review of your event - People travelled and paid the cash to come in, the very least you could have done was acknowledge them! Like I said you managed it on Soul Source. I have no reasons to neither like nor dislike you, I'm just a been on the scene five minutes nobody that has a LOT of friends around the Gloucestershire and surrounding areas that enjoy soul music , but bottom line is they KNOW what they like and if by voting with their feet and not attending do's , well thats their way of doing things! Echoing my very final words of my last post on this subject Good luck with future Do's Mart
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Post by davethorley on Sept 1, 2008 13:10:07 GMT
Hi Mark
We did listen to yours and many other peoples comments and as was remarked on by those that came a change was clear between the two. I know you and the guys at Soulfusion have worked hard and that was why we spoke to both promoters early on. I also know that others in Gloucester have tried to take cheap shoots at both these good venues and again I have offered help and support to both. I may well have read your post incorrectly and if so am sorry. But reading back through several of your post over a number of months some have a particular critical edge, this just maybe your way and I'm sure I'll get used to this. But I find it odd that we hold one very good event which you can't run time and time again (Yate Re-union) or it's loses it's special quality. We then run a second which is different, particularly not to mirror the other events and some people give up on the event over night.
You suggested that we run it as a soul night, but yet another soul night in this area would just have a negative effect on what is already here or so both promoters tell me and I do listen. Both asked that we didn't do something that would effect their events. The direction you imply or suggest, even if people feel that's the way they would like it to be, would be a replication of what is already here in these two good events. So it was a case of do something different or not at all. The different is clearly not what people want, so we have to decide weather to carry on.
Thanks for your comments
Dave
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